The hybrid crappie is a mix of the black and white crappie that still have the ability to reproduce, but at a much lower rate. They claim they reproduce rapidly which would be good to kick up my forage base initailly.Can anyone tell me the benifits and or limitations of these fish . Ewest, a client put some GG in his pond a few years back and he has one of those "fish that ran into a wall" swimming around in his pond too. They spawn when water temperatures reach 67 to 89, but prefer 72 to 79. Bass must be added to eliminate this reproduction. That's the fish truck. Remember, that grass carp prefer to eat grassy material, if you do not have rooted plants in your pond, they will have nothing to eat. Now for the kicker. The increased male to female ratio assists in population control. but I do not see any fry in the water.this is supposed to be a bass and bluegill pond. Joined: Dec 2004. A Hybrid bluegill has a larger mouth, is thicker across the back, is more aggressive and is a cannibal, which helps in controlling the numbers. If you wait, the LMB will be larger and you will have to stock advanced sizes of RES to avoid being eaten by the LMB. Spawning beds may be found in one to five-foot … During summer months, bluegills generally consume 3.2 percent of their body weight each day. The green sunfish is considered a trash fish. Hybrid Bluegill are MOSTLY sterile. Virtual no lakes are managed for only the bluegills. It would be interesting to know what the parents were. Hybrid Bluegill #11705 02/16/05 04:27 PM. However, he no longer posts on this forum. Reproduction can be improved by placing structure in 1 to 3 feet of water. IN FACT, this fish performs magnificently in small ponds its don’t over populate like the common bluegill and its reproduction back to the green sunfish can be control by add bass. The common carp (Cyprinus carpio) and koi (Cyprinus carpio) are actually the same fish species, with koi being highly domesticated and bred for their ornate color. A male may attract more than one female to his nest and a female may deposit eggs in more than one nest. If you put in BG first you may be ok as they may out produce the HBG. If you have any questions about stocking rates or which fish species to stock, call and talk with a biologist to decide what fish will work best for your pond. With our move to our spacious new location, we now have the facilities to provide a full line of fish for your pond stocking needs. These fish will produce approximately 30% meat when filleted. One man's trash is another man's treasure. They like to live in places where the water is shallow with lots of vegetation and hiding places for protection such as logs. laid and fertilized, they sink to the bottom of the nest. This rate of reproduction is necessary to maintain adequate bass forage in a balanced bluegill/largemouth bass fishery and is why bluegill are preferred over other sunfish species. During one summer, a female bluegill can spawn three times releasing 2,300 to 81,100 eggs per spawn. Hybrid Bluegill The Hybrid Bluegill is a cross between a Male Bluegill and a Female Green Sunfish, and is sometimes referred to as a Hybrid Sunfish. So what’s the problem with a bunch of colorful goldfish swimming around my pond? Here is a funny one for you. It also does not reproduce well, because it produces 95% to 100% male offspring. The cross produces the larger mouth of the Sunfish and the aggressiveness of the Bluegill. This will limit reproduction, but will by no means stop it. The sunfish family, Centrarchidae, is a strictly North American fish family. “That’s because they can reproduce, but only with other species. However, widespread introductions have increased the ranges of these sunfish throughout the country. We recommend stocking about 100 - 150 pounds per surface acre in most water bodies. No food equals no fish. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=256325#Post256325, http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=332398#Post332398, http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=349990#Post349990, http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=404439#Post404439, http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92443#Post92443, http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4, https://www.facebook.com/pages/White-Oak-Creek-Fish-Farm-Llc-Allens-Ky-Fish-Truck/223580297708560, Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4. Compared to other hybrids fish such as hybrid striped bass, this species is preferable. Hungry goldfish, carp, and koi will root around in the bottom and create water clarity problems, especially if you have a clay or silt bottom. To sample your smaller YOY fish, BG, HBG and GSF will readily go into a baited minnow trap. Posts: 75. Not HBG IMO. After two days of netting dead goldfish, we had accumulated over 175 pounds of goldfish from a shallow 1/3 acre pond. Right? When we mention the word hybrid, we automatically think several things. For this reason, they should only be stocked in ponds with a strong forage base. However, there is no evidence to support that claim, at least according to marine biologists and top producers of hybrid crappie. The catch is that their offspring will usually be about 90% male and 10% female. When that happens, the next generation won’t exhibit hybrid vigor.” The hybrids are aggressive predators, Lusk said. Therefore they are not recommended for a forage base for larger fish. Hybrid bluegill will reproduce within your pond! Does this make grass carp useless for pond management? Genetics will prove to you that when hybrid bluegill reproduce, their offspring will revert back to either bluegill or green sunfish. Hybrid Bluegill has a large mouth and trains readily to commercial fish feed. "I was there, during the HBG renaissance of 2016.......". When it spawns the offspring can be an undesirable Green Sunfish. The Hybrid Bluegill is 95% male. Shallow water with the top of the trap anywhere from just being covered to about a foot deep. Hybrid bluegill, and their pure bluegill parent, prefer warmer, shallow water, which is why shore fishermen catch them readily. You have HBG you are trying to get rid of. Now I seem to have 2 smaller bluegill also. The first researchers observed the basic biological activities of sunfish. This is our #1 selling fish species. Goldfish are a separate species but with similar characteristics. Can you post pics ? In doing so, many fish, insects, snails, and leeches are pumped directly into your pond. The catch is that their offspring will usually be about 90% male and 10% female. Hybrid Bluegill, the species that easy to produce. Hybrid bluegill will consume a commercial fish food, in turn aiding its growth. Contrasting with the high percentage of male brood, this species is considerably easier to produce. One thing many people don’t consider is that catfish also eat fair amounts of bluegill during the night, creating competition with your largemouth bass. If you’re told differently, you’re being lied to. “Where can I get these so-called super hybrid bluegill?” Many pond owners are convinced that they need to have hybrid bluegill in their ponds. The hybrid bluegill is a popular sporting fish. Member. Hybrid Bluegill do not make more Hybrid Bluegill! WRONG! Hybrid bluegills grow at phenomenal rates especially if you feed aggressively. A little example: I performed a fish kill on a 1/3 acre pond that had approximately six 4-inch goldfish originally stocked 4 years prior. It is best to stock them as soon as you see that the vegetation is getting slightly out of control (greater than 20% of the pond area). If you’re indifferent, I’d probably not stock them. I have a small garden pond. As far as I am aware, there is still no such thing as spontaneous generation. I am concerned that an inferior fish will take over my pond!I have read everything I could find about hybrid bluegill but nothing answer those 2 questions. They may spawn three or more times per season and lay 2,300 to 81,000 eggs per cycle depending on the maturity of the female. My suggestion, if your going to pump water into your pond, get yourself a filter sock (IBN carries these by the way). The hybrid bluegill is a cross between a bluegill and a green sunfish. Turns out my redear where hybrid bluegills. The coppernose bluegill can grow up to 2 pounds and can benefit your ponds ecosystem. See info from member called Meadowlark. I just can’t get them to control the stringy mat algae on the surface.” Actually, you can add about as many as you want, they still will not control the filamentous mat algae. The pond is new and no outside fish can get in. And believe it or not, many of these fish survive the ordeal with little or no harm. And finally, how do undesirable fish such as goldfish, carp, and green sunfish end up in my pond? They produce approximately 33% meat when filleted. As a result of the cross the Hybrid Bluegill is ~80-90% male, giving it a reduced reproductive potential and making it an ideal choice for those ponds prone to Bluegill stunting. Hybrid bluegill do grow at … I have 4 goldfish and a bluegill. As long as you can properly identify both sexes used in the cross, the reproduction will result in success. Re: Coppernose vs. To capture prey, bluegills use a suction system in which they accelerate water into their mouth. Many Lepomis hybrids are fertile and the Hybrids will readily cross back with one of there parental species. Hybrid Bluegill will reproduce in ponds. They do not reproduce fast and will cross with other bluegill species. Most minnow traps have a 1" opening and you can get fish up to 2-3" to go in. Even though hybridized, these fish are still fertile and will reproduce, but the reproduction rate will be significantly reduced. Grass carp are selective eaters, first consuming desirable rooted vegetation prior to even considering the consumption of algae. The hybrid bluegill are 95% male. This produces a viable (NOT STERILE) cross. Few hybrid offspring will survive to adulthood, therefore helping prevent overpopulation. Green Sunfish are very aggressive, are known for biting swimmers … Bluegills are native to North America but now can be found almost all over the continent. They are 7-8 in long now and I'm seeing some about 3-4 in long just like them.And I am seeing some of the big ones and small ones still nesting! Regular Bluegill Otherwise, it can ruin the production of the … They will feed aggressively on fish pellets so you can set up automatic feeders to boost growth rates. This provides an abundance of fertile females for the 90% male blue-green sunfish population to reproduce with. The phone number I have don't work. Hybrid bluegills can grow at a rate of one-half to three-quarters of a pound per growing … Magnificent lodge like home! I have mostly pure BG and am actively saving my naturally occurring hybrids being produced in my sediment pond and putting them in my main pond to increase the HBG numbers. How many BG did the state put in? If your pond does not have any Redear in it, and you wanted them in there, I would start calling around to see who has them now and stock them asap. After reading everyone else responses, another question comes to my mind. Many pond owners rely on ditch or creek water to fill or maintain the water levels in their pond. This is especially true if you have also stocked pure bred bluegill at the same time given that these should be nearer a 50:50 ratio male to female. 120 channel cats . Would you eat the black muck at the bottom of your pond? As you can imagine, there are no black and white rules for managing fish in your pond. Where did they come from? Gumboot. Catfish have their place in many ponds, but make sure that your pond is one of them. Hybrid bluegill will reproduce within your pond! Bluegill may begin reproducing at approximately thee-inches. If you enlarge the opening to 1.5-2" then you can get some larger fish to go in. This will limit reproduction, but will by no means stop it. Birds rarely transport fish or fish eggs from pond to pond. this spring and summer I see the big ones and little ones on Nest all the time. They will have to be restocked periodically to keep a population going. It would help if you provided the type , size , number and stock date of each species stocked. Re: hybrid bluegill reproduction question? A 2-3" fingerling stocked in the spring of the year can potentially reach 1/2 lb by fall, assuming they are adequately fed. The entire colony spawns on the same day, and the process may take anywhere from 6 to 12 hours. Okay, so the hybrid bluegill will reproduce between themselves and with the pure bluegill in the pond. Also, when Hybrid Bluegill reproduce in a pond, their offspring is generally not very … To the best of my knowledge, this crappie-bluegill hybrid would be infertile and incapable of producing offspring themselves. A female bluegill can produce up to 60,000 eggs, depending on her age and size. If you’re a huge fan of catfish fillets, stock them! Hybrid Bluegill reproduction can potentially make either normal Bluegill or Green Sunfish (which is the other species needed to make them “hybrids”). Learn the many characteristics of coppernose bluegill and why you should stock them in your pond. First, offspring will exhibit hybrid vigor…meaning babies will share best of both parents, growing faster and larger than either parent. Catfish grow fast, are easily pellet trained, and can survive about any condition you throw at them. The offspring of the hybrids show inferior growth, and when stocked with bass and bluegill, are often eaten as forage. If you’re not sure what type of plant you have, send IBN a sample and we’ll be glad to assess what needs to be done. Hybrid Bluegill Advice: The Hybrid Bluegill is a voracious feeder, depending mostly on insects, zooplankton and very small fish. Hybrid bluegill will reproduce, however they are 90 to 95 percent male. See the information we have about this in the lengthy thread about hybrid bluegill (HGB). The above fish recommendations can, however, make achieving the goals for you pond much easier. I have been unable to post photos. No fish equals wasted money! I live in Boerne, TX (South Central Texas). If they are still evident, even at … Best of all, any of these three species will gladly hybridize with each other. Bluegill provide an excellent forage for bass due to their ability to reproduce at incredible rates. If you do decide to stock and harvest catfish, remember that catfish rarely reproduce in smaller impoundments. See if you can get pics of the HBG and the 3-4 inch fish. The sex ratio of Hybrid Bluegill are 90% Male to 10% Female. These early studies foun… As you may know, our answer is usually in the form of another question, “What are your goals for the pond?” As you decide what types of fish you may want to stock, here are a few pointers. The regular Bluegill will reproduce in large numbers, which is a plus if your pond has an established predator population. And the redear to control the grubs from getting in my bass. A hybrid bluegill can grow up to 4 lbs., however typically they only get 1 1/2 to 2 lbs. Hybrid striped bass are identified by the broken black horizontal stripes on their body and most often occupy deeper open water and only rare instances with lakes larger than 10 acres will they reproduce. The hybrid bluegill grow extremely fast and outgrow the regular bluegill. Hybrid Bluegill are stocked for the fun of catching them. Some say that hybrid crappie is actually bigger and grow faster than normal crappie. wiTh in one week of putting in the supposed to be redears I seen them on nest close to the bank these fish were only 2 inches long at the time. Check 15 to 30 minutes after setting it in the water. During a typical season I see 20-30 ponds that are completely overrun with at least one of these three species. When both the natural and hybrid crappie are subjected to the same conditions, they grow and reproduce at the same rate. This is similar to a mule resulting from a horse-donkey reproductive event. Excellent questions. And my favorite… common carp, golfish, and koi. Member. Hybrid Bluegill. Overland Park, KS. My guess is the 3-4 inch fish you see are BG (not HBG) and in a new pond they can and will spawn at 4 inches. The only exception reported is the hybrid crappie found in Kinkaid Lake, in … Callahan's pictured fish do look similar to Georgia Giant hybrids. The native range of the bluegill was in the eastern U.S., while the green sunfish was found in the central U.S. and the redear sunfish in the southeastern U.S. A hybrid bluegill is a cross between a male bluegill (Lepomis macrochirus) and a female sunfish (Lepomis cyanellus). The mouth of the fish is quite small, and it has 2 dorsal fins. The number of bluegill, catfish, and bass was decided by the kyfw ( new pond program )the redear (hybrid) was chose by me. The hybrid bluegill has been given a bad name because of its reproduction back to a green sunfish and its misuse. Many good bluegill lakes are greatly reduced by the unnatural population increase of game fish which can add even more fishing pressure to other great bluegill waters. Many people are under the belief that catfish only eat rotted bottom materials and work to keep the pond bottom clean. The Hybrids do reproduce back to the green sunfish. G. Gumboot. First, they don't reproduce like bluegill do. Habits of the Hybrid Bluegill. Absolutely not, they can provide long-term control of rooted vegetation provided that proper numbers are stocked for the type of plant material that you have. GSF can come down stream from the overflow of a pond above you or they can swim upstream up your overflow in water just a couple inches deep. He was following sequential or generational HBG in his ponds. So, if you think you’ll add one of each to prevent them from reproducing, you’ll be sadly mistaken. They do not reproduce a desirable offspring, so plan to restock with them when their numbers get low. The issue with standard bluegill is they reproduce quickly and can take over a pond very fast if there is not a suitable predator fish population keeping them in check. the hybrids that were supposed to be redear stocked two weeks before the bluegill were stocked. Yes, 175 pounds in a small, shallow pond, all from 6 original fish! I am looking for some information to help me make a educated decision on how to manage my new pond. There is a post or link about FX generation HBG. The neighborhood kids, fishermen’s bait buckets, and “contaminated” fish stockings. Catfish will in fact eat dead fish and other bottom insects, crustaceans and Catfish have their place in many ponds, but make sure that your pond is one of I’ve also seen them consume the occasional duck and baby goose. Our friend Steven Smith at the Noble Foundation explains bluegill reproduce at incredible rates. They are likely some other cross than the normal BG X GSF hybrid. Hybrids are a cross between female green sunfish and male bluegill. This is especially true if you have also stocked pure bred bluegill at the same time given that these should be nearer a 50:50 ratio male to female. First, my most often asked question… “How many more grass carp should I add to my pond? At Inspired by Nature, Inc., we are always getting questions about fish management and stocking. “If people intend to stock hybrid bluegills, stock them as a stand-alone species and not with other species of fish,” he said. � 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide. It's about 10" long. The mule is incapable of producing its own offspring. If you’re told differently, you’re being lied to. Where did you get those hybrids? For those of you with a pond full of green sunfish, you can contest to the problems that they cause. Hybrid bluegill will reproduce. You can easily identify female bluegill by the yellow color of its belly, while the male has a red belly. The standard “Hybrid Bream” is a combination of a Coppernose Bluegill and a Green Sunfish. Female Bluegill start to spawn after their first year of life. I don't Facebook. Use dog food chunks, wadded up bread or fish pellet food for bait. The bluegill x green and with most hybrids the F2 generations are highly variable in terms of apperance and size, even between a givin brood. A careful observation each season should see bluegill in the shallows along the shore of the pond. They grow fast, taste great, and they get to lunker sizes (supposedly up to 3 ¾ pounds). The new Southern Specklebelly Sunfish does not breakdown into an undesirable fish. Hybrid Bluegill can be stocked in March through November. Hybrid bluegill are said to be a superior stocked sport fish for a few reasons. Is there any nearby source where trash fish could have entered your pond perhaps during a heavy rain? These fish are highly reproductive and if only a few predators are present, will fill your pond quickly. I stocked 1000 bluegill. Do Hybrid Bluegill Reproduce? What could be wrong with that? They grow faster than the standard Bluegill. Prey comes in with this water. Is there any possibility that some fish from other water could have contaminated your pond? They will eat a floating pellet fish feed and can reach up to 2 lbs in size. Read about them HERE. The coppernose bluegill is one of the most versatile fish species and can add to both your pond health and family fun. Nipping, stunting, and competition with largemouth bass are just a few of their traits. 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